oat flour retry

i want to create a bread of some sort and am a most Stubborn soul..

now i have an oat flour crepe recipe..
one might think this would be something even i cannot screw up..
updates on this one to come
hahahaha

oh bother.. the oatmeal bread is a flat out bust..

even when i made it to the original directions it still SUCKED.. (maybe not quite as bad as the first 2 tries but still did NOT taste good at all. not even a little bit.. tried the original steel cut oats, tried regular oats and even tried with oat flour..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdUy9liygC0

SIMPLY awful..
bummer...

HOWEVER i will say that YES there is such a thing as goats milk Yogurt. by way of Clarks nutrition here locally..
still is frustrating - even the oatmeal cookies i made came out the texture of a muffin rather than a cookie and the gr kids only sort of liked them..

that is NOT high praise from the bottomless pits...


now i find any recipe i see i mentally run down the list of how i can substitute - its amazing how easy THAT part has become..
so today's interesting exercise has been this recipe (i LIKE lemon cake lol)

http://www.cakerecipesblog.com/2017/05/lemon-cake-with-lemon-filling-and-lemon.html


there are 2 ingredients that are to be looked at - flour and butter..
the butter has two possibilities - either butter flavored vegitable shortening or goats milk butter.. the strength of the Lemon should easily conteract the stronger goats milk taste.
that should work.
and the flour..
before getting to a flour substitute - note in the recipe its a basic white cake with lemon filling & lemon frosting. one CAN add lemon to the cake mix if one wants to..

so i went exploring and found THIS: Bobs Red Mill Vanilla Cake Mix - claims to be both wheat free and dairy free. sounds good. and this is getting to be VERY INTERESTING.. i go to this one site and 
its advertised at I HERB for $2.92 https://www.iherb.com
and sold at Amazon from $4.95 to 51.57(thats $4.30 ea x pack of 12 and $30.99 shipping) 
yikes.

now where i live our closest store carries a LOT of bobs red mill and they seem to average between 4-5$ so i can check if i can get this there..
might be fun to try...

The ELUSIVE BREAD....

sigh..

i am a bread freak. a bread a-holic, a bread aficionado..
so to me ANY menu must have bread or not be complete..

yea, about that.. (that noise you hear is me banging my head on my desk)... Frustration rules the day.. i found the PERFECT wheat flour substitute and it didnt suck for taste or consistency... only to realize its Tapioca based.. erggh..

so i went on an alternative bread recipe binge.. did you know that there is either Tapioca or Cornstarch in every one i found of premade mixes??

so i started hunting on google and pinterest.. and tried a few.. - lets just say the less said the better on THOSE subjects.. the breads were either inedible or just disgusting. cloud bread was "ok" at best but MUST be eaten same day.. next day was pretty awful...

today tho i found an IRISH oat bread recipe.. its perfect..

well, except for one eeensy weeensy little problem.. the yogurt in the recipe..

now i know i cannot use cows milk or soy yogurt. and i cant make yogurt from nut milks or coconut milk.. i dont actually know if you cant make it from them, i cant USE them in the menu.
so that seems to leave goats milk and rice milk..

CAN one make yogurt from these?? does someone Else make yogurt from these??

and by the way ONE site that is all things goat milk says you use cows milk for yogurt starter. we CANNOT do that ;(

help!!!

THE END GOAL.. Ramblings of a convoluted mind:

the End GOAL of the Menu:
that the guests have a meal of  Rich, Savory, Sweet, Salty foods of various textures colors and scents that satisfy both the eye and the palate and that NO one feels deprived or excluded because of a food allergy..

well, the OBVIOUS answer is to feed 150 guests/family a reception tea that all enjoy
And no one ends up in er..
(the latter isnt USUALLY on the first sentence but with the extent of food allergies...it is an issue)

And as i have been puttering with the menu, READING LABELS up the yahoozy and STILL not finding an Edible (my opinion here) bread product that has NONE of the allergy triggers, it dawned on me, we really didnt have a stated focused goal for the meal 'Except" just to feed people.

gahhhh.. that just not good enough..
if THAT were the only goal we could just serve clear broth, a salad and water. done finito...

i
dont
think
so..

that would be a cop out and a failure.. (granted it IS cheap on the budget!!lol)
but it is NOT the point

so back to the menu.. the entire tea could EASILY be ONLY salads.. and i suppose thats not a 'bad' thing.. i have recipes for Incredibly interesting salads. & hope to use at least 2. but theres no balance. it feels 'unfinished.

a note on the one thing i have NOT focused on....While there may be a vegetarian or two in the group that is the ONE thing we are not being specific for.. Vegetarians for the most part are very capable of picking & choosing their food preferences so we feel confident we dont have to "Worry" as they will have a good number of choices for them to pick from..

Examples of the kind of choices & what i mean:

Everyone knows jello. & most have had it In SOME flavor or another. plain or with stuff in it.. look at the old standbys that families love at the holidays.. & to be honest many of them are rather boring and trigger a large number of allergies & one would think them unusable..
but.....
well, i am Rediscovering there is a WHOLE world of just gelatin based dishes.. absolute classics. like 1930s jellied beef or chicken consomme: they were all the rage back then.. a hostess wasnt "in" if she couldnt serve a really nice jellied consomme!! check these variations in 1889 https://books.google.com/books?id=cJBCAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA289&lpg=PA289&dq=on+serving+a+jellied+consomme+at+a+party&source=bl&ots=zq1UOjvhti&sig=2_bis5UKfM2wPL5IIcejFHDv--0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiv6raTrcrTAhUH-mMKHXwhD6sQ6AEIIzAA#v=onepage&q=on%20serving%20a%20jellied%20consomme%20at%20a%20party&f=false
 but i digress a bit

soooooo......

picture a small bowl of savory vegetable tomato aspic with a side of salty calamari olives..

or of deep bone broth rich gelatin served on spinach leaves with jicama sticks

or rice paper spring rolls with crisp vegetables & pressure cooked turkey slices /with non soy sauce dipping sauces like spicy mustard & sweet & sour..

a small plate of handmade cream mints as well as pieces of home made fudge

and you begin to see where i am trying to go with this.. ALL of these dishes i listed are allergy free.. (from OUR list of allergies)

Reading Labels.. and yes THEY MATTER

well let me give you an example of what i mean....

PANKO BREAD CRUMBS.. Nice product with Excellent reviews:

 Ian's Natural Foods Panko Breadcrumbs Gluten Free Original Description

• NO Wheat or Gluten
• NO Milk or Casein
• NO Eggs
• NO Peanuts or Tree Nuts
• Fat Free • Cholesterol Free

Food-allergy gourmets and celiac chefs - it's time to celebrate. You're holding the country's most allergy friendly Panko Breadcrumbs ever! Prized from their light and airy crumb, Panko Breadcrumbs add a crunch to your favorite foods without weighing them down. Ian's Allergy-Friendly Gluten-Free Panko Breadcrumbs are made with no wheat or gluten, no milk or casein, no eggs and tree nuts - so everyone can enjoy this culinary favorite.

Free Of Artificial flavors, colors, preservatives, wheat, gluten, milk, casein, eggs, nuts.

Disclaimer
These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA. These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.

ISNT THIS AWESOME?.. but the ads, while showing what it does not have.. did Not show what it DID have.. so had to go a hunting..

and finally found it..(why not include it in the ads??)

Other Ingredients: Rice flour, xanthan gum, salt, leavening (sodium bicarbonate, gluconolactone), canola oil, sugar, yeast, ascorbic acid.
Processed in a facility that manufactures products containing soy.

AND FOUND two more allergy items…

LABELS MATTER.

 A recent conversation with the kids went a little bit like this.

Me: so, what do you think about having a tomato/V8 Aspic for the buffet??

Them: Huh??????? Tomato what???

Me: its rather like a veggie jello.

Them: uhhh… eewww????!

Me: it was REALLY popular at parties in the 50s-70s. quick and easy….. allergy free..

Daughter: next time don’t describe it, just have us taste it first THEN explain it..

Sigh..

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“Aspic is a dish in which ingredients are set into a gelatin made from a meat stock or consommé. Non-savory dishes, often made with commercial gelatin mixes without stock or consommé, are usually called gelatin salads.

When cooled, stock that is made from meat congeals because of the natural gelatin found in the meat. The stock can be clarified with egg whites, and then filled and flavored just before the aspic sets. Almost any type of food can be set into aspics. Most common are meat pieces, fruits, or vegetables. Aspics are usually served on cold plates so that the gel will not melt before being eaten. A meat jelly that includes cream is called a chaud-froid.

In the early 19th century, Marie-Antoine Carême created chaud froid in France. Chaud froid means "hot cold" in French, referring to foods that were prepared hot and served cold. Aspic was used as a chaud froid sauce in many cold fish and poultry meals. The sauce added moisture and flavor to the food

Historically, meat aspics were made before fruit- and vegetable-flavored aspics or 'jellies' (UK) and 'gelatins/jellos' (North America). By the Middle Ages at the latest, cooks had discovered that a thickened meat broth could be made into a jelly. A detailed recipe for aspic is found in Le Viandier, written in or around 1375 “

Variations of Aspics have been made around the world, even in Kathmandu Valley in Nepal (tho I doubt if I can manage a Buffalo meat jelly!)

photo courtesy of http://www.thesaucysoutherner.com/tomato-aspic/

Here are a couple of sites with some INTERESTING variations on this theme.. (although the Thai Kung Phet Aspic Spicy Prawns in Aspic with gin & vodka is kind of out there lol)

https://lindaraxa.blogspot.com/2010/08/reviving-classictomato-aspic-before-and.html

2nd photo from

http://www.coconutandlime.com/2013/01/tomato-aspic.html

Now, in Spite of the ‘conversation’ the kids DID try the first Aspic I made. 

I used V8 juice, plain gelatin and cucumber pieces.. tasted ‘ok’ but did not have the worchestshire sauce recommended. Turned out bland and a bit sloppy (not set well)

The second try was the same but with lemon jello added.

Conclusions: I LIKED it.. BUT.. am going to re-try – with the following changes. ADD the worchestshire sauce. It NEEDS so pizazz. (some recipes suggest adding hot sauce, but wont do so for a number of concerns). Eliminate the cucumbers.. I think their high water content was part of the problem of being soggy. Daughter & I liked the added lemon flavoring of the jello addition.. 

I think I would like it either without ANYthing in it (not fond of celery or red pepper in jello myself) or ‘something’ else just not sure what yet..

Will give later updates on this 😊

4/20/17 ---UPDATE: made it one more time.. V8 juice lemon jello & worchestshire sauce.. SO good! no things in it. just the aspic.. i expect i will make it for my self on a regular basis.. its NICE.. :)

Dissecting a recipe- or Simple isnt Always so simple..

As I go along I am starting to 'develop' a process of Dissecting and then reassembling recipes. 

Lets start with a SIMPLE & fairly common easy to make lovely little dessert - 

Easy no Bake parfait..  (its quite yummy all on its own!)

https://www.justataste.com/easy-no-bake-cheesecake-parfaits-recipe/

but for our purposes may be bit too complicated 

The required sugar, lemon juice/zest, vanilla (tho i would use best quality)& fruits present no particular  problems.

and the Cream Cheese. now that I know i can make homemade cream cheese i dont see this as a major barrier

we have the choices of Goats Milk Cream Cheese, Coconut Cream cheese & Vegan Cream Cheese (note that this recipe DOES use Cashews) one of our taste testing days will compare the 2 & possibly 3 of them..

http://www.dailyforage-glutenfree.com/2014/09/homemade-dairy-free-coconut-milk-cream-cheese.html

Mind you this is somewhat a more complicated looking recipe.. its unlikely I will want to do this myself.. but its Certainly looking interesting.

https://www.healthfulpursuit.com/2012/12/how-to-make-soy-free-vegan-cream-cheese/

·        Now to the GRAHAM CRACKERS:

·         

·        I have found One retail product Enjoy Life Handcrafted Crunchy Cookie, Vanilla Honey Graham, Gluten Free, Dairy Free, Nut Free & Soy Free, 6.3 Ounce (Pack of 6) that claims to be

·        ALWAYS Free-From: gluten, wheat, dairy, peanuts, tree nuts, egg, soy, fish, shellfish

·        Products made without casein, potato, sesame and sulfites

·        Allergy-Friendly, Verified Non-GMO, Certified Gluten-Free

It Sounds pretty good. Until you realize at at least 160 servings & each box costs just under $15 each- this is definitely not the solution to this problem..

https://www.ama zon.com/Enjoy-Life-Handcrafted-Crunchy-Vanilla/dp/B004SEU95U/ref=sr_1_1_a_it/144-4921256-1655457?ie=UTF8&qid=1491701490&sr=8-1&keywords=wheat%2Bfree%2Bgraham%2Bcrackers&th=1

Here is another retail product that sounds promising.. Pamela's Products Gluten-Free Graham Crackers Honey Description

·        Graham Style Crackers

·        Certified Gluten-Free

·        Egg-Free

·        Kosher

·        Made with Real Honey

·        No Artificial Additives

·        No Hydrogenated Oils or Trans Fats

UNTIL you read the “other ingredients:

Other Ingredients: Rice flour base (brown rice flour, white rice flour, tapioca starch, sweet rice flour, xanthan gum), organic non-GMO butter, brown sugar, sorghum flour, gluten-free oat bran, molasses, organic non-GMO honey, gluten-free natural flavors, grainless and aluminum-free baking powder (sodium acid pyrophosphate, potato starch, sodium bicarbonate), baking soda, cinnamon, sea salt.

Allergen Information: contains milk. Both are Allergy products for the some of the guests

So what alternatives are there..

1 suggestion included: .

Cold Cereal

Look no further than breakfast for lots of crunchy options for pie crust. Grind up granola, crispy rice cereal, or cornflakes together= the rice cereal looks hopeful.. I will come back to this in another post..

The last item in the recipe is whipped cream..

At this point in my breakdown I am being reminded that we are going to feed a minimum of 150 guests, and until I know otherwise about the venue I MUST assume refrigeration is not an option until told otherwise. The levels of complication & cost factors have taken this standby appetizer and dropped it to the bottom of my 3^rd level list..

Its probably a no-go.. but it HAS been MOST educational..